Episode 140: Rage Bait 64 (ft. John Warren)

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It's Christmas of 1996 and you've just unwrapped the hottest new home gaming console, the Nintendo 64. You're about to be immersed into a game more realistic than your brain can even fathom. Except it's not 1996, it's 2024 and games look more like real life than real life does. Wouldn't it be a wild thought experiment to adapt a game made in 2024 to 1996's N64? Wouldn't it?

Fair warning, if you've played a particular game series, Andrew is going to make you furious. Kyle is here to make one 25th of a game. Todd is going to talk a lot about horses. Because none of those things sounded great, we also invited former Fanbyte Head of Media and current cohost of If You’re Driving Close Your Eyes and cofounder of Glydr, John Warren!

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Properties we talked about this week: Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Fortnite, Mine Craft, 007 GoldenEye, Red Dead Redemption 2, StarFox 64, Elden Ring

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FLAVOR TEXT: Metal Gear Solid

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Kept you waiting, huh? It's been nearly four years since we first talked about Vulcan Raven and his magical spirit ravens, and so we're finally bringing you the full context and delivering on what may be one of the most complicated and insane video game stories of all time...Metal Gear Solid!

Our deep dive into the history and lore of this PS1 classic will leave you wondering if love can, in fact, bloom on the battlefield. Maybe even after it's over, you'll leave a comment saying...you're pretty good. La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo. OK, that's enough this game is silly.

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DCOMstructed: Halloweentown

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A very happy Spooky Day to all who celebrate. For this momentous annual occasion, we present to you a preview of our new series, DCOMstructed, a monthly breakdown and discussion of Disney Channel Original Movies, or DCOMs. As is the season, our choice for this here holiday is none other than Certified BangerTM Halloweentown!

EDITOR'S NOTE: During the commercial break, we listened to an old promo for A Bug's Life as well as a few other Disney Channel liners of that time. Since famously-litigious Disney Corp included the whole-ass track to Baba O'Reily in that promo, we weren't able to include it on the free feed. If you like what you hear and want more of DCOMstructed (or you just want that Bug's Life promo), consider checking out our Patreon at patreon.com/debatethiscast! For $5 a month, you'll get access to the Premium feed, which right now includes our pilot episode we did about Phantom of the Megaplex as well as the entire backlog of our D&D real-play show The Office Drones.

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The Office Drones: Episode Sacramento (LIVE At Origins Game Fair)

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Last weekend, we had the opportunity to do a live show of our Patreon-exclusive D&D show, The Office Drones, to a very open-minded audience at Origins Game Fair here in Columbus, OH. It was a super good time and everyone there was really cool with playing in the weird space of a side episode based on a show that's been running for 3+ years on a closed Patreon feed they'd never heard of owned and operated by a podcast they'd also never heard of.

This is the recording of that episode, and it was a BLAST. We created all new characters that live in the extended Office Drones universe, but rest assured no prior knowledge is necessary to enjoy this one-off episode.

If you like this and want to experience more of the story of The Office Drones, go back and check out some of the supercut episodes we've uploaded to the free feed (Book 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/17MTbQNZlJwUQJu0Fy1lVY?si=844a760ad62f402d; Book 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/48LEjg152yvD7FKQ0bhIFq?si=0603a9edefda4166). If you like that, consider subscribing to our Patreon feed where for $5 a month you can have access to the full campaign so far!

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FLAVOR TEXT: Bloodborne

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The pale moon rises on Yharnam, a Victorian England-inspired city cursed with a mysterious plague known only as the "Beast Scourge." You arrive in Yhaarnam by way of spooky blood magic as the latest inductee to this underground society of Hunters, whose sole purpose is to hunt and kill the beasts terorrizing the town. But, this is a Dark Souls game, and so there's no possible way there could be anything hidden deeper in this cool werewolf game, right?

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FLAVOR TEXT: Console Wars

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Before Xbox and Playstation were waging war in the 2000s, we were dealing with the console war version of the Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. The shot heard 'round the world was a simple phrase: "Sega does what Ninten-don't." We all remember the bold and edgy marketing that drew the line in the sand. Brother against brother, we all had to take a side in the console wars of the 90s, but that's not the whole picture of a story that starts years earlier. Join us today as Matt walks us through the earliest console wars in today's FLAVOR TEXT guranteed to hit you hard right in the nostalgia bone.

Special thanks to #buttthwompnation member "@MGrum54," who was kind enough to give us an excuse to break out the Nintendo light gun by commissioning this episode! If you want to commission your own FLAVOR TEXT, check out our Patreon page at patreon.com/debatethiscast.

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FLAVOR TEXT: Dungeons & Dragons

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You enter a room, extinguished candles smolder upon sconces that fill the dark alcoves all around you. Your vision is limited unless you have darkvision. Do any of you have darkvision? Oh you do? Oh you all do? Nevermind, you see everything just fine but in greyscale. Also, the door was actually a mimic. The carpet is a mimic too. Roll initiative.

We gather in this nameless tavern today to dive into the history, deep lore, and fun knolwedge bits of Dungeons & Dragons. Join us as we discuss the origin of the world's greatest roleplaying game, the differences in prior editions, a discussion into just how fantastic of a character the Raven Queen is, and ending with a fun game of "Is it a D&D Adventure Module or is it a Quest from a Video Game?"

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FLAVOR TEXT: Pokémania

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In September 1998, the U.S. was introduced to the franchise that would soon become a worldwide phenomenon: Pokémon. After only 18 months, Pokémon was everywhere--on TV, in car CD players, in school cafeterias, and on kids' backpacks and bedsheets. You couldn't walk 5 feet inside a Kmart and not see something with Pikachu's likeness on it. How did this come about? Why, all of a sudden, was every child aged 7-14 suddenly screaming for their parents in to buy them booster pack upon booster pack of Pokémon cards in the summer of 1999? And, why oh God why is there a Pokémon Christmas album? Find out the answers to all these questions and more on our deep dive into the late 90s cultural phenomenon that was Pokémania.

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FLAVOR TEXT: Completing Video Games

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Picture this. You've dedicated hundreds of your limited hours of existence exclusively to The Legend of Zelda: The Breath of the Wild. You've cleaned out every one of the 120 shrines, you've maxed out your health and stamina, and you've found the most rare and powerful weapons. Moreover, you've explored every inch of the map and have literally overturned each and every stone in order to find all 900 Korok seeds--most of which didn't even provide material gain. But, you did it. You have done all of the things and have seen all the stuff. As you nab that 900th Korok seed, you breath a sigh of relief, saying quietly to yourself: "It's over."

Triumphantly, you rush to the NPC character who originally set you off on this quest, wondering to yourself what kind of reward could possibly be in store? Maybe some super cool armor or overpowered weapon? Maybe an extra shrine or dungeon or something? You eagerly wait for the Korok's fun and silly dance to conclude, soberly aware this will be the last time you may ever see this dance because you are definitely never going to do this again. The Korok leader tells you "here is your reward", and you get the new item prompt--only to show that you've just been handed a golden piece of poop. That's right. You combed the vast expanse of the Hyrule wastes in order to find all these dang Korok seeds just to receive a big ol' turd. You shrug a bit and ask yourself, "OK, what's next?"

What makes people compulsively explore every corner and check every box in a video game? Why do we always feel like we -have- to get all the achievements and get all the collectables to see the TRUE ending? Today, we explore that innate desire to 100% video games.

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FLAVOR TEXT: Apex Legends

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A space marine gets marooned on a distant planet after a catastrophic spacecraft explosion and discovers a weapon based on ancient alien technology that has the ability to decimate planets. Together with his new A.I. buddy, this physically enchanced "super soldier" race against an army of space zealots to secure control of the superweapon.

No, we already *did* Halo. This is Titanfall, and it's totally different because it leads in to the real "combat evolved"...the Mad Max-esque bloodsport that is Apex Legends! Soldiers, murderers, mercenaries, thieves, and friendly robots alike emerge from across the universe to compete in a 30th century gladiator-like arena, full of guns, explosions, and--most importantly--a whole lot of cooldowns.

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Special thanks to #buttthwompnation's own Space Legend, "@zhakix" for commissioning today's episode. If you're interested in comissioning your own FLAVOR TEXT, come check out our patreon at patreon.com/debatethiscast.

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